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RoF · Oct 24, 2005, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Have a new area/ town/city/ whatever... completely devoted to trading. Ideally in this new city there would be different districts based on what you were selling. So there would be one new city with separate districts for bows, swords, axes, hammers, wands/staffs, materials etc...

This would be great because when I was in a regular city I wouldn't have to deal with all the trade spam when trying to form a group to do a quest.

If this isn't feasible, I think there should atleast be a "trade" district in every main city, just for people who want to trade. This would make it easier to buy/sell items, and it would also make it less of a hastle for non-traders.

Pik uR BuM · Oct 24, 2005, 02:43 AM // 02:43

....Turn off your trade channel.....

its that simple...

Kool Pajamas · Oct 24, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28

....Not everyone uses the trade channel....

Lasareth · Oct 24, 2005, 03:32 AM // 03:32

Since we're talking player incompetence to stay in the channel in the first place, I doubt that same group of people would go to a specific district just to trade. The idea has merit but needs a bit of adjusting, as it isn't feasible as-is.

One and Two · Oct 24, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Don't go to Lions Arch and Ascalon Districts One.

Kool Pajamas · Oct 24, 2005, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Its in more than district 1.

One and Two · Oct 24, 2005, 03:48 AM // 03:48

I'm guessing that you're in PvE mostly. I dunno bout those places anymore, but in Tombs there's always a bot in every distric trying to get us to Buy Gold. For real money. Now why would you spam that crap in a PvP area?

One and Two · Oct 24, 2005, 06:28 AM // 06:28

What is gonna stop people from going to normal districts and spamming?

People already try to sell crap in PvP districts...

Sereng Amaranth · Oct 24, 2005, 06:29 AM // 06:29

disable any trading in non-trade districts

One and Two · Oct 24, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32

People will be pissed in ToA...leaders have to pay to full 1k.

And sometimes ya just wanna give stuff out, you know?

Especially when you want to help someone buy new armor, which is in a lot of towns.

Dunno. You could say disable gold trading in non-trade districts, but what if someone needs that gold to buy a ident kit from a merchant or something...

lishi · Oct 24, 2005, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by One and Two

I'm guessing that you're in PvE mostly. I dunno bout those places anymore, but in Tombs there's always a bot in every distric trying to get us to Buy Gold. For real money. Now why would you spam that crap in a PvP area?

i think bot spam in that area becouse is easy reachable.

make pvp char -> spam

if they want spam in LA they should

make pve char -> reach LA -> spam

since those account are easy banned they should repeat proccess ever time

Gustav Gloomp · Oct 24, 2005, 11:41 AM // 11:41

just go to dis 4 or higher if u dont want to see all the channels being spammed with WTS AND WTB. they should make an option of what dis u would like to enter a town in.

RoF · Oct 24, 2005, 12:56 PM // 12:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Pik uR BuM
....Turn off your trade channel.....

its that simple...

Quote:

Originally posted by Gustav Gloomp
just go to dis 4 or higher if u dont want to see all the channels being spammed with WTS AND WTB. they should make an option of what dis u would like to enter a town in.

Sorry I should have been more specific. The issue is that there are many different kinds of players who spam the popular districts. There are players who want to buy and sell items, there are players who want to form groups to do quests, and there are others who just want to socialize. These players are all in the popular districts because it is a waste of time to try to sell an item, form a party, or socialize in a district with 20 people in it. All I'm trying to say is, that these players shouldn't have to compete within the tiny chat window.

I think it is very feasible for Arena Net to add text to the district numbers... and each time you enter a town you are asked what type of district you want to enter.

eg.

District 1 - Game
District 2 - Game
District 3 - Game
District 4 - Trade
District 5 - Trade
District 6 - Trade
District 7 - Social
District 8 - Social
District 9 - Social

Quote:

Originally posted by One and Two
What is gonna stop people from going to normal districts and spamming?

People already try to sell crap in PvP districts...

Nothing, people should be able to trade in these districts too. But I think people will be encouraged to trade in trading districts because that is where the buyers would be. And also, they wouldn't have to compete with the LFGers and the socializers for lines in the chat window.

Krazax · Oct 24, 2005, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Sounds good RoF. I like your example.

Perhaps to address another issue someone in the thread mentioned, why not have a 3 button option that pops up when clicking a town, where you select one of the 3 types of districts and then the computer randomly places you in one of those types of districts.

With the option to directly select it yourself from the dropdown menu as it is now as well to bypass the 3 button option.

darkMishkin · Oct 25, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07

I imagine the mechanics of the games (serverside) would suffer from having even more districts added to every town.

And the whole point of a town is thaty it is a mix of traders, socialising and party-forming. Splitting them up would just ruin town atmosphere.

The only (semi)solution I can thinl of is to have radius within the district, perhaps only in Lion's Arch. People standing at henchies can only hear public/trade chat from other people standing near henchies, whereas people in the trading area of the town (ie storage) can only hear Public/trade chat from others standing in the same radius of the town.

This whole issue is too complicated for a solution though. It won't get much better than it already is.

RoF · Oct 25, 2005, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkMishkin

I imagine the mechanics of the games (serverside) would suffer from having even more districts added to every town.

And the whole point of a town is thaty it is a mix of traders, socialising and party-forming. Splitting them up would just ruin town atmosphere.

The only (semi)solution I can thinl of is to have radius within the district, perhaps only in Lion's Arch. People standing at henchies can only hear public/trade chat from other people standing near henchies, whereas people in the trading area of the town (ie storage) can only hear Public/trade chat from others standing in the same radius of the town.

This whole issue is too complicated for a solution though. It won't get much better than it already is.

I'm not saying they should make new districts. I'm saying that they should categorize at least some of the existing districts.

I suppose you like the "atmosphere" of the towns, but I, and I'm sure many others, find it hectic and annoying.The chat bar isn't big enough for all of the people who want to use it for different things. I'm not saying do away with regular districts, but there should be atleast one or two districts that people could enter, knowing that the other people in the district are there for the same reason.

MSecorsky · Oct 25, 2005, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Crappy idea in practice (not in theory) because of human nature. The trade dists wouldn't be as populated as the game ones, so guess where people (and bots) would go to hawk their wares?

Yep, the more populated districts, i.e. the game ones.

Pik uR BuM · Oct 27, 2005, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoF

I think it is very feasible for Arena Net to add text to the district numbers... and each time you enter a town you are asked what type of district you want to enter.

eg.

District 1 - Game
District 2 - Game
District 3 - Game
District 4 - Trade
District 5 - Trade
District 6 - Trade
District 7 - Social
District 8 - Social
District 9 - Social

I think your example would just simply confuse the people whom already dont know how to use the trade channel. If they dont know how to use the trade channel, do you really think that they would know how to use your proposal? Your example wouldnt really justify the problem.
The problem isnt the fact that there should be a trade district. Its just that people dont know how to use the TRADE CHANNEL...
The trade channel has one purpose... to trade... yet people dont understand or bother to take notice why Anet put it there in the first place.

Undivine · Oct 27, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Setting aside a district for trade is just like setting aside a chat channel for trade. In both cases it only serves to filter out unwanted advertising on the consumer's end, but it does nothing to help the sellers. Imagine if TV had an "Advertisement Channel". Just commercials all day long. Who would watch that? Nobody. And so, who would advertise on that channel knowing nobody is watching it? Nobody. Let's face it, consumer economies neccessarily involve sellers harrassing you.

That's why the trade channel is an inadequate solution, and so is the district idea. If you really want to solve this you have to tackle it at the source of the problem. You have to make it easy for sellers to offload their goods quickly and with little effort. Thus, an auction house. People looking for something specific can find it there, and it's so efficient that I'm sure people who are not interested in buying anything would still window shop from time to time just to see if any deals catch their eye.

One and Two · Oct 27, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Auction house. In WoW (my friends all play), Ironforge lags because there are so many people, and a decent computer can't draw all the people in reasonably framerates. It seems like a solution, no?